Downloading Direct from a D700

[Ferdinand in Paris]

I'm running an older version of DLP. I have a license for a newer version (bought in a double upgrade - but not the latest version), but have opted not to install it yet (don't want XMP sidecars). But my installed version won't download directly from a D700. Will the latest version do this? If so, what was the first version of DLP to do this? (Can't see this question answered either in the version history or in this forum.) I'll then see if I'm entitled to it and look at the version history and will see if I want to install it.

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[mike.strock]

Ferdinand - The only reference I can find to the 700 is v2.2 of Downloader Pro. Chris would know best, but that's the only direct reference I can find.

What version of DP are you running?

Mike.

[DavidB]

The presence of sidecar files (which, it has to be said, many applications will add) is not a function of the DL Pro version, but of the setting to add IPTC data. If you disable adding the data, DL Pro will not create the sidecar files. The moment you add titling or keywords etc., there will be a sidecar file.

David

[Ferdinand in Paris]

Believe it or not I'm running 1.9. I think that my last upgrade entitles me to 2.2.6 (correction 2.2.3), but I decided not to upgrade because I want to work solely in IIM IPTC for the time being.

Yes, I didn't make that point clear - I do add IPTC and therefore as I understand it, more recent versions of DLP will generate sidecars automatically. This is a debate we could have, but that's my preference - not to generate them at this point.

I also didn't make clear the source of the problem with the D700 - Nikon removed the option for it to appear to a PC as USB device. It can only appear as a camera in the scanner and camera area of Windows (XP SP3). Earlier models could be configured as a USB mass storage device and then there are no problems at all in downloading direct from the camera.

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[DavidB]

... but I decided not to upgrade because I want to work solely in IIM IPTC for the time being.

Yes, I didn't make that point clear - I do add IPTC and therefore as I understand it, more recent versions of DLP will generate sidecars automatically. This is a debate we could have, but that's my preference - not to generate them at this point.
To add IIM data, I agree that you probably need to work in BB Pro, or whatever.

However, it is virtually impossible to work solely in IIM in any application that supports IPTC/XMP (such as current versions of both BB Pro and DL Pro), as the XMP data (and therefore the sidecar file) is generated along side the IIM. This is the only way to maintain compatibility with, for example, current Adobe applications. Aren't standards wonderful?


I also didn't make clear the source of the problem with the D700 - Nikon removed the option for it to appear to a PC as USB device. It can only appear as a camera in the scanner and camera area of Windows (XP SP3). Earlier models could be configured as a USB mass storage device and then there are no problems at all in downloading direct from the camera.
Downloading from a card reader saves all the hassle and is typically much quicker. Other than shooting tethered (which I don't do very much), I gave up downloading from a connected camera years ago.

David

[Ferdinand in Paris]

Downloading from a card reader saves all the hassle and is typically much quicker. Other than shooting tethered (which I don't do very much), I gave up downloading from a connected camera years ago.
Agreed, and I normally would, but I recently forgot one. And it wasn't the end of the world, as I could still download and rename the images using file manager software. But the question is, can I do it from DLP if I need to?

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[Ferdinand in Paris]

Chris

Now that you're back, would it be possible to get a reply to my initial question at the top of this thread? Some of my follow-up posts may help to clarify why I'm asking.

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[Chris Breeze]

Most Nikon DSLRs allow you to select whether the USB interface works using MTP/PTP or as a mass storage device. If you set this to mass storage device the camera will appear as a drive letter in Windows Explorer and you can download from it as if it was a card reader. Unfortunately I don't have a Nikon D700 available for testing at the moment and so I can't check that the D700 has this setting.

[Ferdinand in Paris]

That's my problem. This option was removed in the D700, so the USB interface only works using MTP/PTP. So my question is: If I don't have access to a card reader, can DLP access the images directly from the D700 via MTP/PTP? If so, what was the earliest version of DLP that could do this? If it can be done with the version I'm currently using (1.9), then can I ask how?

(I'm still running V1.9 for reasons discussed above. I am licensed for up to V2.2.3 should there be a reason for me to install a later version.)

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[Chris Breeze]

I'm sorry I don't know without getting hold of a D700 and testing the different versions. I always use a card reader to download my images because it is usually much faster than downloading from the camera via USB.

If you make a copy of your current DLPro settings in the Windows registry (or rename the key so that it doesn't get overwritten) then you could try the latest version and still go back to v1.9 if you want. The settings are saved under the registry key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\BreezeSystems\Downloade r

[Ferdinand in Paris]

I agree that a card reader is better, but I got caught without one recently and so the question arose.

Could you test this with a D300 or D200 and simply turn on the MTP/PTP option?

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[Chris Breeze]

I've just tested it with my Nikon D300. Downloader Pro v2.2.7 works fine with the Nikon D300 when its USB mode is set to MTP/PTP. It had no problem downloading JPEG and NEF raw files from the camera.

[Ferdinand in Paris]

Thanks. Much appreciated. The issue for me is whether 2.2.3 would also do this (latest version that I am licensed for but not yet installed) or would I have to buy an upgrade to the latest version. I might give this a try, but any light that you can shed on recent changes to DLP that might have influenced this behaviour would be appreciated. As would any tips on how get DLP to work with MTP/PTP. Is it supposed to just work with auto-detect, or is something else needed?

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[Chris Breeze]

Downloader Pro v2.2.3 also works with my Nikon D300 when the USB mode is set to MTP/PTP.

[Ferdinand in Paris]

Thanks for your help with such a small matter. I had thought that it would simply be a matter of checking which version of DLP had D700 support, rather than a trial and error process, so thanks.

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