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Ulf Widen
June 20th, 2005, 10:17 AM
Hi, please I would like to have some tips and hints about IPTC workflow. I'm using DL Pro to download my rawfiles(CR2 and CRW) with some tokens to get some basic and jobinfo. After that I use BB Pro to Edit IPTC and convert the images. But I have not figured out how to insert some personal info (IPTC Core)? If I first use Adobe PS CS2 or Adobe Bridge to insert IPTC Core-info and then go to BB Pro I can't see the IPTC-info. Don't BB Pro recognize the XMP sidecar file?
Anyone have some workflow tips regarding this it would be very helpful. I'm relative new to this so my knowledge is somewhat limited.

Thanks
Ulf Widen/Sweden

Chris Breeze
June 20th, 2005, 12:14 PM
PS CS2 no longer uses the IIM method of storing IPTC data that has been in widespread use for over 10 years and has replaced this with a new XML based method called XMP. Currently very few apps other than Photoshop use this new method and there is inevitably going to be an awkward transition period (which may last several years) as it becomes adopted as the standard method of storing meta data in images.
I've started to look at support for XMP data in BreezeBrowser Pro and Downloader Pro, but it is a complicated subject which is going to take a lot of time and effort. Currently BBPro v1.2 beta 3 will read IPTC data from the XMP block embedded in images if they don't also contain IPTC data in IIM format. It doesn't read data from the XMP sidecar files at the moment.

CameraShooter
June 20th, 2005, 02:25 PM
Many of us are struggling with this, esp. if you've started using CS2 in your workflow, as I did. A breakthru came with beta 3 where Chris will read the XMP data. That means data can start in the legacy fields, get moved to XMP by CS2, then read by BBPro when generating HTML.

Here's what I'm doing right now...

First, use the distributed cache in CS2, not the centralized cache. And XMP sidecar files, which I think you said you were using

1) I annotate my raw files with BBPro, NOT CS2. I store picture Captions in the Caption/Description field.

2) Open the raw files in Bridge, which will READ the legacy fields and populate both Legacy and Core blocks of data. Essentially this transfers your metadata into CS2.

NOTE: If you have a folder of pictures that already has the cache built, and you ADD annotation to a raw file with BBPro, then flush the CS2 cache and build it again. This will cause CS2 to repopulate the XMP blocks.

3) Convert the files with CS2/ACR into the \converted folder

NOTE: there are BUGS in CS2 (visit the Adobe forums) where CS2 screws up the EXIF data. BBPro can save you again by copying all EXIF data from the upper level folder raw files down into the \converted folder JPEG files

4) I then take the \converted folder through the BBPro HTML process and build \converted\HTML

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CameraShooter
June 20th, 2005, 03:11 PM
Thomas Knoll says it will be fixed in ACR 3.2. But until then, there's always BREEZEBROWSER! ;)

Ulf Widen
June 25th, 2005, 09:07 PM
Thank you very much for your kind help. I have tried your tip and I have now found a way to a working workflow for me, even if it's somewhat awkward. :) .

Cheers
Ulf Widen